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您好 jack liu
谢谢您的回复,我还有点不太明白,也就是说如果在NZ拿到西厨的学历,毕业后做到主厨才能申请移民?
2楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

这是其中一种途径,但不是唯一。只要满足SKILLED EMPLOYMENT的定义,就可以申请。

如果你满足以下其中的一条,无需一定要满足LTSSL的要求。以下是移民局对SKILLED EMPLOYMENT的加分说明。CHEF是属于PART A的,所以只贴PART A的内容出来。

First, you need to make sure that the description of your job/job offer substantially matches the description of the occupation (including core tasks) in the ANZSCO.

Then, check if your occupation is in part A, B or C of the List of Skilled Occupations.

Occupation in Part A
If your occupation is listed at Part A of Appendix 6: List of Skilled Occupations, you must also have one of the following.

- A relevant recognised qualification. The qualification must be at, or above, the qualification level on the New Zealand Qualifications Framework (NZQF) that corresponds to the skill level indicated for that occupation in the ANZSCO.
- The relevant work experience that the ANZSCO indicates may substitute the required qualification.
- The relevant requirements specified in column three of the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL) for your occupation (if your occupation is included in the LTSSL).
- Five years of relevant work experience in a Skill Level One occupation.


具体请参考:www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/skilledmigrant/caniapply/skilledemployment/

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3楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

另外,小弟并非JACK,只是一名小喽罗,而JACK是躲在后台的BOSS级大魔王,各路英雄如果想KBOSS的话得先清场。打不过小喽罗的话请先打怪升级刷装备,或者找攻略使秘籍开外挂,否则BOSS不大会出场。:P

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New Zealand
user
jack liu 哥你好
    小弟是一名西厨,有L4的国家证书,加上在奥克兰以外4小时车程的小岛上工作了三年 是老外开得酒店,当了2年三厨1年主厨,老婆今年用探亲过了来,前两个月转了伴侣签证,现以开始工做 虽然不是什么短缺工作 但是是老外酒店 当任主任一职,有合同,请问我们一起搞partner,机会大吗?谢了
2楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

您的情况应该可以够资格申请的

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3楼 David (08/Aug/12, New Zealand)

真的?谢了那我能不能和我老婆一起申请雅思豁免啊

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4楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

您在NZ工作的时候已经有3年以上,申请雅思成绩豁免成功的机会应该比较大,不过也出现过移民局不接受豁免申请的个案,所以如果您的英语不是特别困难的话,建议考虑一下是否保险一些考个6.5。另外你在NZ已经有长时间的skilled employment,只要满足ANZSCO里的要求并且EOI分数超过100,理论上是不需要您太太帮忙加分就可以办理技术移民的,基于这个前提,您太太作为副申请人即可,不需要她的学历加分,因此也无需提供雅思成绩。

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5楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

补充一下,我不是特别肯定在NZ三厨是否能算Chef,建议您在当地了解一下情况,如果不算的话,可能看一下ANZSCO里对Chef认定的要求。

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6楼 David (09/Aug/12, New Zealand)

谢谢你JACK LIU 哥


Occupation:
351311 Chef

351311 CHEF

Plans and organises the preparation and cooking of food in a dining or catering establishment.
Skill Level: 2

Specialisations:

Commis Chef
Chef de Partie  
Demi Chef
Second Chef
Sous Chef
我是两年Commis Chef 一年Chef de Partie
不知到算不算符合了?
还有如果用chef申请那我只有L4的证书没有L5的证书,有没有影响?或者换句话说用3年经验取代L5的证书这个可能性有吗?

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7楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

ANZSCO里并没有对证书级别作出要求,我估计您是看了LTSSL里的内容。我个人觉得您的经历已经符合SKILLED EMPLOYMENT IN NZ,因此如果你满足以下其中的一条,无需一定要满足LTSSL的要求。以下是移民局对SKILLED EMPLOYMENT的加分说明。CHEF是属于PART A的,所以只贴PART A的内容出来。

First, you need to make sure that the description of your job/job offer substantially matches the description of the occupation (including core tasks) in the ANZSCO.

Then, check if your occupation is in part A, B or C of the List of Skilled Occupations.

Occupation in Part A
If your occupation is listed at Part A of Appendix 6: List of Skilled Occupations, you must also have one of the following.

- A relevant recognised qualification. The qualification must be at, or above, the qualification level on the New Zealand Qualifications Framework (NZQF) that corresponds to the skill level indicated for that occupation in the ANZSCO.
- The relevant work experience that the ANZSCO indicates may substitute the required qualification.
- The relevant requirements specified in column three of the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL) for your occupation (if your occupation is included in the LTSSL).
- Five years of relevant work experience in a Skill Level One occupation.


具体请参考:www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/skilledmigrant/caniapply/skilledemployment/

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8楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

另外,小弟只是一名小喽罗,而JACK是躲在后台的BOSS级大魔王,各路英雄如果想KBOSS的话得先清场。打不过小喽罗的话请先打怪升级刷装备,或者找攻略使秘籍开外挂,否则BOSS不大会出场。:P

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China
guest
Hi,Jack
我们已经拿到ITA,请问 我是主申请人, 我老婆是副申请人,她是硕博统一的博士, 博士学位是免NZQA评估的学校,但本科不再是免NZQA评估。  请问 她 本科需要NZQA评估吗。。。

另外,我们结婚刚2个月, 她可以和我一起申请移民吗,看到好像是需要结婚超过12个月。
2楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

您太太的情况估计还是需要对本科学历进行NZQA评估。以下是移民局关于认可学历的说明:
A higher qualification does not automatically meet the qualification requirement under LTSSL. The occupations and relevant qualifications/work experience on the LTSSL were developed in conjunction with specific industry/sector.  The industry/sector advise on the acceptable qualifications/work experience for the occupations.  The requirements are driven by industry and the associated bodies.

Reasoning of why the higher qualifications are not always acceptable in place of the lower ones centres on the lower qualification containing practical components.  Not all higher qualifications have a practical component and may be solely theory based.   A higher qualification does not necessarily mean that the person has the specific skills of the lower qualification.

Your options:

If you can demonstrate that your qualification contains the same content or covers the same areas as the listed qualification, then it may be considered with your application.   NB: Bachelor vs Masters - they are not comparable.

To demostrate comparability of your qualification you may wish to approach NZQA to assess it against the lower qualification to see if it was comparable/contained the same components.  Or you may approach the appropriate Industry Training Organisation or industry body for confirmation that the higher qualifications is sufficient to undertake employment in the specific occupation. This evidence should be attached to your qualification evidence when submitting your application, and your immigration officer will consider it accordingly.

另,并不是说结婚12个月,而是在一起生活12个月,因此您可以拿一些结婚前的证据来证明你们的关系是长期、稳定的。当然如果是闪婚的话当我没说……

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China
guest
想问一些博主和各位以下几个问题,不胜感激
1.在国内如果拿到NZ的OFFER,是不是也要有雅思6.5的成绩才行
2.在国内如果拿到NZ的OFFER,可以同时递交EOI吗?还是必须等工作一段时间再递交申请?
2楼 K L4 (08/Aug/12, China)

1.在国内如果拿到NZ的OFFER,是不是也要有雅思6.5的成绩才行
- 雅思成绩以及成绩单编号是EOI中必填的项目,除非您申请雅思成绩豁免,否则无法提交EOI

2.在国内如果拿到NZ的OFFER,可以同时递交EOI吗?还是必须等工作一段时间再递交申请?
- 拿到OFFER,EOI够100分就可以申请了,当然工作后再申请也是可以的

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3楼 AOI (08/Aug/12, China)

谢谢,不胜感激。

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4楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

补充一下,您拿到OFFER,也还是需要满足SKILLED EMPLOYMENT的要求才能申请技术移民的,具体要求可以在ANZSCO里查询。

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China
guest
您好!jack liu
有个问题想咨询一下,非常感谢!
在新西兰读西厨毕业后,如果找到洋人开的餐厅的工作后,就能办移民吗?还是要等三年的工作经验?
如果在中国学西厨,然后做够五年是否也能达到移民新西兰的目的,两者的效果和区别在哪里?
2楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

如果是在NZ当地工作,厨师申请技术移民的话只需符合skilled employment的要求即可。ANZSCO对Chef(351311)的定义如下,需要注意Chef是不包括Cook的:
CHEFS plan and organise the preparation and cooking of food in dining and catering establishments.
Cooks, Fast Food Cooks and Kitchenhands are excluded from this unit group. Cooks are included in Unit Group 3514 Cooks. Fast Food Cooks and Kitchenhands are included in Minor Group 851 Food Preparation Assistants.

Indicative Skill Level:
Most occupations in this unit group have a level of skill commensurate with the qualifications and experience outlined below.

In New Zealand:
NZ Register Diploma (ANZSCO Skill Level 2)

At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above. In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:

planning menus, estimating food and labour costs, and ordering food supplies
monitoring quality of dishes at all stages of preparation and presentation
discussing food preparation issues with Managers, Dietitians and kitchen and waiting staff
demonstrating techniques and advising on cooking procedures
preparing and cooking food
explaining and enforcing hygiene regulations
may select and train staff
may freeze and preserve foods

Occupation:
351311 Chef

Plans and organises the preparation and cooking of food in a dining or catering establishment.
Skill Level: 2

Specialisations:

Chef de Partie
Commis Chef
Demi Chef
Second Chef
Sous Chef

如果在中国工作并申请技术移民,则除了满足上述ANZSCO的要求外,还需满足LTSSL中的要求,除了5年经验外,还需具备一定的资质证书。下面是LTSSL对Chef申请工作经验加分的要求:

Either National Certificate in Hospitality (Professional Cookery) Level 4 OR National Certificate in Hospitality (Cookery) Level 4 OR a Level 5 Diploma (specialising in the area of professional cookery) AND A minimum of five years combined experience in establishments offering a la carte/banqueting or commercial catering, with a minimum of two years at Chef de Partie (Section Leader level or higher)

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China
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Jack 请问下Work holiday visa是全年都可以申请吗?据说是不是要在网站上抢名额啊?你能办理吗?谢谢
2楼 K L4 (09/Aug/12, China)

是全年可以申请,但有名额限制,中国每年会有1000个名额,目前已经申请完了,不过偶尔也可以关注一下是否有些零星的名额放出来

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China
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1、必须在紧缺职业才能申请技术移民吗?还是在可移民技术职业清单中就可以?会计可以吗?
2、如果只有OFFER,人没有在新西兰,申请通过的概率大吗?
3、工作邀请需要什么形式的?类似劳动合同吗?对企业的要求是什么?必须证明在本地聘用不到这个职位的人吗?

你的这个网站非常好,内容很详实,谢谢你。
2楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

1、必须在紧缺职业才能申请技术移民吗?还是在可移民技术职业清单中就可以?会计可以吗?

-可移民技术职业清单就是紧缺职业,也就是之前提到的即时短缺(ISSL)和长期短缺(LTSSL),此外基督城经历了去年的地震需要重建,现在多了个CSSL,也就是坎伯雷地区的紧缺职业清单。不过这几个清单上的职业在申请移民的过程会不一样,LTSSL的职业可以直接申请技术移民,但ISSL的职业只能用于申请工签,要办技术移民的话只能等工签下来,工作一段时间后再申请。以下是移民局网站的原文:

We use the LTSSL for both temporary work and residence instructions. If you come to work in New Zealand based on meeting the LTSSL requirements, you may be eligible for residence through our Work to Residence (LTSSL) instructions, or the Skilled Migrant Category.

We only use the ISSL for temporary work instructions. If you come to work in New Zealand based on meeting the ISSL requirements, there is no direct link to residence.

会计已经被移除出紧缺清单,因此无法直接申请。不过Accountant - Chartered - Senior positions (221111)还在即时短缺职业清单里,所以申请工签的话在理论上可行,但很多雇主可能会觉得麻烦而不愿意请外国人(比如移民局会调查为什么不请本地人等)。

2、如果只有OFFER,人没有在新西兰,申请通过的概率大吗?

-大,非常的大,只要你的EOI能达到100分,几乎没有失败的可能。不过,人没在新西兰但能拿到当地OFFER的可能性非常的小……

3、工作邀请需要什么形式的?类似劳动合同吗?对企业的要求是什么?必须证明在本地聘用不到这个职位的人吗?

-我也没拿到过NZ的OFFER所以具体情况也不是很清楚,但应该还没到合同那一部,估计也就是觉得你的条件不错符合对方公司的要求之类的说明吧,跟国内外企发的OFFER LETTER差不多。

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China
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请问,关于工作经验,我看有网上说,必须是紧缺职业的工作经验才被承认?是这样吗?如果不是,如何证明自己的工作经验?就是用简历吗?
2楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

必须是紧缺职业才能申请,不过紧缺职业分为即时紧缺和长期紧缺。工作经验不能用简历来证明,可以通过以下材料来证明,包括:公司证明、劳动合同、纳税或社保缴纳记录以及其他能够证明您的职责符合移民要求的材料等。

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China
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请教Jack,我的情况如下,33岁,本科和硕士都是机械专业,清华。毕业后从事IT方向,10年工作经验,最近5年是项目管理,都是知名外企。我想问一下,如果我申请,我看到紧缺职业里有mechanics engineer的职位,我紧缺职位和工作经历的得分怎么算?移民是否有希望?
2楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

我查了一下LTSSL,似乎没看到有mechanics engineer,您确定是这个名称?

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3楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

补充一下,是否Mechanical Engineer (233512)?如果是,您工学硕士+60,10年工作经验+30,另外由于您符合绝对紧缺职业的要求,可额外+10。附LTSSL中对Engineering申请绝对紧缺加分的要求:

A Washington Accord accredited engineering degree

OR

Either a qualification specifically recognised by NZQA as comparable to a:

Bachelor of Engineering,
or
Bachelor of Engineering (with Honours), or
Master of Engineering degree
OR

A bachelor degree (Level 7) or higher with a letter from IPENZ certifying that the degree and any further learning meets the academic requirements for registration as a 'Chartered Professional Engineer' in New Zealand

OR

NZ registration as a 'Chartered Professional Engineer'

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4楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

不好意思,看漏了,您毕业后从事IT相关职业的话,恐怖在申请工作经验加分的时候会有点麻烦。LTSSL中对IT类职业的加分有如下规定:
Bachelor degree (Level 7) specialising in Information Technology (Computer Science, Information Systems or other Information Technology) OR Bachelor degree (Level 7) specialising in Electrical and Electronic Engineering and Technology AND three years of relevant work experience.

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5楼 木亦 (07/Aug/12, China)

象我这种情况有可能申请成功么?看起来只能以学历申请,忽略掉工作经历

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6楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

个人觉得是的,虽然您在IT行业里已经超过5年,满足了ANZSCO里用工作经验代替学历不对口的要求,但LTSSL里又明确要求只能是IT、电子/电气类的学士或以上学历才能申请工作经验加分,所以我个人认为您在这方面比较吃亏。不过毕竟每个人的情况不一样,我建议您可以写个邮件跟移民局的人确认一下。

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China
guest
Jack你好!
我的学历是国内本科的机械工程师(属于PART A类中LTSSL长期紧缺职业清单中的职位),以银蕨入境NZ找到专业性工作后,如果想要50分的工作加分,是否需要做学历评估?

在您的文章中有这样一条:
如果申请人的职位出现在PART A中,除了符合ANZSCO中该职业的描述以外,还必须满足以下要求中的任意一条:
申请人拥有ANZSCO中规定的相关学历或更高学历;
如果申请人没有相关学历,需要符合ANZSCO中所注明的一定工作经验年限来替代学历要求(职位属于Part A-Skill Level One的,必须至少5年工作经验替换学历要求);
如果申请人的职业属于LTSSL长期紧缺职业清单中的职位,需要符合第三栏中的要求;

谢谢!
2楼 K L4 (07/Aug/12, China)

如果您的学历(本科或以上)是在移民局豁免评估(exempt list)的学校清单中,不需要做评估,但要做公证+翻译,否则需要把材料送到NZQA进行评估。是否需要进行学历评估与工作无关。另,LTSSL中对部分职业的学历有特别的要求,因此除了ANZSCO的要求外,还需满足LTSSL的要求。

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